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The Rational Middle podcast hosts Chris Lyon and Loren Steffy — with the help of immigration attorneys Charles Foster and Jacob Monty — dive into America’s troubled history of employment verification, workforce recruiting, education, misclassification, and the subsequent impacts on our workforce. They also discuss potential pathways to a solution.

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Rational Middle is a platform for discussion that focuses on creating real change in the immigration system by creating a foundation of facts upon which Americans can have civil, solutions-based discussions.

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